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grrrow. am all pissed off now. when zarah brought up the concept of "heterophobia," i was slightly uneasy... but she handled it well, putting it in its proper context. taken out of that context... argh! am feeling great rage... breathe... breathe...

most of rage is induced by this comment on the supposedly rampant problem of heterophobia among teens:
It is there, and it does need to be addressed. Despite all the "We've had it sooooo worse!" whining from the more vocal of the GLB community.

rrraaahhhh! whining? WHINING? is she actually trying to imply that in reality, it's just as hard to be straight? ooh. @#^&%(&*^&^%$&^%$!!!!! that's me - trying not to alienate people by calling them mean names. good thing no one can hear what i'm saying aloud. of all the stupid, fucking...

ok, breathe. wow. i just sorta thought my little circle of lj friends was somewhat safe from such blatant ignorance. nope. ok. but don't leave me hanging here! someone tell me you are as appalled as i am.
someone... please?
the post and comments which include that delightful little snippet

Just when I'd thought I'd heard it all!

Date: 2002-06-14 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brightest-blue.livejournal.com
Rampant heterophobia? If it exists, it's news to me. I don't doubt that there are some relatively small subcultures, such as the on-line slash communities where it may exist to a degree, although even there I've found considerable tolerance for a wide variety of lifestyles.

My RL is rather firmly entrenched in young, urban, professional (did I just say yuppie? *gg*) middle america and while I would venture to say there is considerably less homophobia in this group (or at least my circle of friends) than there used to be say,in my parent's generation, thank god, the concept of "heterophobia" existing on a widespread basis is inconceivable to me.

I've even lived in some very gay-friendly communities, and there, just as anywhere else, anyone who practices an alternative lifestyle of any sort is in for some constant challenges. You put it well, Phineas!

Re: Just when I'd thought I'd heard it all!

Date: 2002-06-14 09:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phineasjones.livejournal.com
and you put it well, too. thanks for backing me up on this... i was beginning to wonder if i lived in some different world. you've made an unbelievable frustrating experience a little easier to take.
la lucha continua...

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Date: 2002-06-14 06:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarah5.livejournal.com
I am.

This was absolutely fucking not what I meant. Just, fuck.

Will leave a comment on the whole fucking issue in the morning. Defend myself, you know?

I WAS TALKING ABOUT HETEROPHOBIA IN SLASHDOM!!!

Gods. Is that really so hard to understand for some people?

Sorry. Forgive me for freaking out in your LJ. I'm just beyond pissed right now, and would comment already if it weren't for the fact that I'm not in the right state of mind to write a coherent reply.

Need. Sleep.

But. What. The. Fuck?

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Date: 2002-06-14 09:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phineasjones.livejournal.com
thank you. like i said, you put what you were saying well within context and spoke with clear logic referring to specific situations. it's too bad your words and thoughts were so distorted.
i look forward to reading your comments tomorrow...

am kind of glad this happened though (not that i usually enjoy an on-line shouting match), clearly some people out there need to hear all this.

Re:

Date: 2002-06-15 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zarah5.livejournal.com
Oy! Hot naked men all over each other! Just gotta love soccer. But, anyway.

I'm much calmer now, so don't expect a shouting match. Although I don't agree with Gemmi - and am going to tell her so in a minute - she doesn't belittle certain things. Like the fact that yes, homosexuals do have it worse in our world.

So, it's not really Gemmi (Sam?) I'm pissed at. It's mostly this daznsoething and his/her claim that homosexuals are whiners. Excuse me?

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Date: 2002-06-15 05:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gemmi-1.livejournal.com
does this mean i'm ignorant?

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Date: 2002-06-15 08:05 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] phineasjones.livejournal.com
speaking for myself...
while i disagree with you and was concerned by what you said, my great indignation is over the comment posted as a response by someone else. yes, the whole "whining" thing. grr.

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