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[phineasjones]

4 june 2007


so i started on flylady yesterday. which, of course, means i shined my sink. sadly, my sink is old crappy, painted-over porcelain covered with scratches and stains. it will never be perfectly clean and shiny. but i know it's clean. and that's what counts. right? right.

so, what if there were a community for fannish-types who were interested in flylady, or doing the flylady thing or whatever. would anyone out there be interested? this is about home cleaning and general life organization,if you're wondering. the website is here. it's corny, cheezy, all that stuff. but it's also really effective. so, let's see who would be into that.

[Poll #997666]

Comments

[thefourthvine.livejournal.com]

I might go there. My sister is in love with FlyLady - seriously, I think they might get married in a civil ceremony, even though my sister is already married, so that would be, you know, illegal. And she's been trying to get me to go there forever, and I have tried, several times, but I've always stubbed my toe on the gender issues and gagged on the, um, tone of it. (I don't *want* to be hugged, damn it. Certainly not by a woman who calls herself FlyLady, which I always picture as being some horrible mutant fly-human hybrid with an obsessive interest in garbage.) And they don't have a "FlyBaby cynic who really doesn't like all this touchy-feely crap" category for beginners that I could find.

But! I would like to have a cleaner house. It isn't like it's dirty in here, but we've been living here for eight years, and I am really starting to see the effects of not having to put everything in boxes every two or three years: we have Too. Much. Shit. Just - random shit. And our house isn't big enough to have a lot of random shit in it without looking like it's full of, well, random shit.

Plus, I think this would be way more palatable if I was doing it with fans, and in a fannish context. So, yeah, I'd do it - I've just talked myself into changing my vote up there to yes.

[phineasjones.livejournal.com]

yeah. exactly.

i had a great run with flylady a few years back. but then i got distracted and let it go and now my house (even though i moved less than a year ago) is going to bury me in clutter. when i was going strong with flylady, though, i felt great. there are so many handy systems for keeping track of just about everything. i want that back.

but you're right, there's weird gender stuff and there's god all over the place and... well. many of those people seem to be from a different planet. so it makes perfect sense to me that we can help each other through it. mock the corny parts and use the helpful stuff. right?

ok, then. guess i better get on this.

[marginalia.livejournal.com]

see, that's exactly what i was thinking about a fannish one -- that we could take the bones of Getting Things Done and mock the rest.

[phineasjones.livejournal.com]

yeah, i think that's the way to go. you are very smart. :)

[j-s-cavalcante.livejournal.com]

it makes perfect sense to me that we can help each other through it. mock the corny parts and use the helpful stuff

Hi there. Checking out your journal and noticed this, cuz I happen to have Flylady's book. I, um, kind of have a collection of books about organizing, and I'm too disorganized to actually have them totally work for me, but, you know, each one helps a little bit. My kitchen sink is always pretty much good, cuz I can't stand looking at it if it isn't, and I keep stuff mostly clean, but the clutter is an issue. Always has been. I'm a visually oriented type who has to have stuff where I can see it or it might as well not be there! So I've actually found some other books much more helpful. Especially Organizing for the Creative Person by Lehmkuhl & Lamping. Great book.

But anyway. I like the idea of fen supporting each other at this, because we understand each other's pack-rat tendencies and our obessiveness and our creative-type orientation. And so on.

I don't recall the gender issues and the God comments in Flylady's book, but I didn't read it cover to cover, and I pretty much ignore that kind of thing, anyway. I try to get the value an author is offering and ignore any "noise." "God" is pretty much a nonsense word, anyway: who really knows what anybody else means by it, you know? So I kind of mentally substitute Spirit or Universe and I don't worry about it.

There's always de-cluttering and organizing I can do. I'm beginning to think I'll never actually get to where I think I'm truly organized, but hopefully I can be a little more organized...and make peace with the rest. :)

Anyway, cool idea. And I am VERY IMPRESSED at how well you pimped DS. Yay! We should have, like, a Scout badge for that. :)

[phineasjones.livejournal.com]

yeah, i have flylady's book too, but i haven't found the book as helpful as the system in general - website and reminders included (though the reminders get a bit out of hand). the gender stuff is rooted in the basic assumption that we're all a bunch of housewives trying to get our homes in order. she says she's including everyone, but she's really talking to women and a specific class of women at that. and makes comments about the 'dear husbdand' all the time. and then she has things like "god breezes" which are supposed to be, like, inspiring moments or something. she doesn't get specific with the god stuff, but it's there and it freaks me out a little.

but, yeah, i like the idea of a bunch of us doing this together. it was marginalia's idea. i think we'll have to give it a go.

oh, and thank you. i wish i could get paid for fandom pimping. then i could quit my day job! if i had one.

[marginalia.livejournal.com]

ooh, thanks for the suggestion for _organizing for the creative person_. i just placed a hold on it.